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Kathryn Ryan interviews Keith Ovenden for Nine to Noon

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The sensational trial of a high-flying civil servant on spying charges reflects the ongoing misalignment of New Zealand’s security agenda with the foreign policy interests of other countries, according to the late man’s son-in-law.

Keith Ovenden’s new book, Bill & Shirley, takes an intimate and candid look at the lives of his parents-in-law, the Wellington power couple, Bill Sutch and Shirley Smith.

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